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Default OptimumHealthSecrets.net SCAM

This thread is a warning about a web site that has been spamming the forum. The site is called Optimum Health Secrets. Optimum Health Secrets, located at: OptimumHealthSecrets.net is a site that sells miracle juice type scam products and makes fraudulent claims that SCAM customers into thinking they are being treated or cured of diseases etc.

The owner of OptimumHealthSecrets.net posted multiple threads in our forum claiming that, "ACAI the only help and cure for everything."

As anyone knows, it is illegal and unethical to claim that a juice, berry or supplement can cure anything...

OptimumHealthSecrets.net claims that this miracle juice junk is a cure for everything. After multiple warnings, we were forced to ban OptimumHealthSecrets as a member on our Health and Fitness Site.

If Optimumhealthsecrets posts anything on your blog, health and fitness forum or requests a link exchange, we advise that you do not accept as the claims made are false and unethical. We hope no one is taken for a fool although the claims made were pretty easy to see through.

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Old 06-20-2009, 11:52 AM
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I decided to make sure that these guys aren't posting more spam on other valuable sites, or at least that their spam doesn't stick, so I posted this review and then sent an email to the owner of optimumhealthsecrets (Bobby Nolan). Is this too harsh?
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Hi info@optimumhealthsecrets.net,
As a thank you for your "valuable" posts in our Health and Fitness Forum, I wanted to let you know that we've posted a review of your site and hope to help you rank better for OUR chosen description of your site. Here's the link if you'd like to actually read something before posting irrelevant, fraudulent information.

http://www.befit4free.net/f5/optimumhealthsecrets-net-scam-1068/#post4114

No need to link back to us... This one's a freebie.

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I decided to make sure that these guys aren't posting more spam on other valuable sites, or at least that their spam doesn't stick, so I posted this review and then sent an email to the owner of optimumhealthsecrets (Bobby Nolan). Is this too harsh?

LOL, I love it. Not only did you make me laugh on this cloudly day, but you also made me proud of you. I think your words fit the situation and I stand behind you 100%.

Thank you so much.
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Old 06-20-2009, 02:37 PM
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From: rick rosales
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 11:06:45 -0700
To: <curtis@befit4free.net>
Subject: Re: Link Exchange


The truth is, our supplement is real and alive from the actual fruit. Your supplements are fake, synthetic, dead, and man made in a lab resulting in minimal benefits.

Your just a hater, and your hating cuz our supplements are better than yours. Everyone will get what they deserve, including yourself.


God bless us all.


Rick



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Old 06-20-2009, 02:38 PM
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On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 11:18 AM, <curtis@befit4free.net> wrote:
What do you expect when you go to a site that someone has put 7 years of work into and spent over $40,000 in the last 3 years, and that entire part of their life generating a community, and a BUSINESS that is based on giving FREE (useful) information to their members and you start STEALING by posting your spam with no benefit to the community?

I was extremely offended by your actions, and most of the time, a spammer will atleast post something relevant to what they're trying to sell... You didn't even post the spam in a relevant category, proving that you had no intention of giving anything of use to our community...

What if I went on your site trying to pedal illegal ****** or steroids?

You'd be offended also.

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Old 06-20-2009, 02:39 PM
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Default Frivolous Slander Suit by Optimum Health Secrets

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Link Exchange
From: rick rosales
Date: Sat, June 20, 2009 11:49 am
To: curtis@befit4free.net

1st of all im the president of sales and marketing for optimum health.

It wasnt me that posted on your site. i never even knew your site existed.


Bobby nolan is an employee, he is the one. I have already had a talk him. Please delete trying to say our company is a scam. Thats slandar, and i will sue you if you do not remove your bad post on my company immediatley. You have 24 hrs to comply


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Old 06-20-2009, 02:41 PM
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Default BeFit4Free Reply to Slander claim by Optimum Health Secrets

Rick,
I appreciate you telling me that you have spoken with your employee about spamming other sites and the lack of integrity that involves.
I've had employees make mistakes that were bad for business also, so I'll be glad to remove the post.

In law, defamation (also called calumny, libel, slander, and vilification) is the communication of a statement that makes a false claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that may give an individual, business, product, group, government or nation a negative image.

Your employee did, in-fact make claims that were in-fact illegal (Violates FDA Regulations), as well as illegally marketed.
SPAM Legislation: http://www.spamlaws.com/state/summary.shtml And we pointed that out to members of our community...

FDA Excerpt:
: a product sold as a dietary supplement and promoted on its label or in labeling* as a treatment, prevention or cure for a specific disease or condition would be considered an unapproved--and thus illegal--drug. To maintain the product's status as a dietary supplement, the label and labeling must be consistent with the provisions in the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act (DSHEA) of 1994.
*Labeling refers to the label as well as accompanying material that is used by a manufacturer to promote and market a specific product.

I'll remove the posts but we both know you're not going to file an unjustified slander suit where your company is also in danger of FDA Debarment.

Thanks for your support.
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Curt, i am forwarding this email to you from one of my Legal partners. We have all the proof that we need from your post and your 2 emails. You just screwed yourself buddy. Have a nice day

Rick Rosales
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Jackson <davidjackson@ibls.com>
Date: Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 11:53 AM
Subject: SLANDER
To: Rick <rick.rosales23@gmail.com>

You own a open forum not regulated or administrated for users to post. There is no verification of ability to post with an email anyone can post in your forums. In this case with your post about Optimum Health not knowing whether or not there product is real, you cannot claim they are fraud or have not helped people with there health issues.
If the proper steps are not took to explain your "scam" post against Optimum Health is false we will file a lawsuit against you. After you make a new post explaining your mistake, make sure you email Rick Rosales the appropriate link to your new and correct post. Also delete this post.


OptimumHealthSecrets.net SCAM


David Jackson
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Internet Business Law Services

Supposedly this David Jackson of ibls.com is Rick's Legal Partners. David wrote the email to Rick talking about Rick's forum etc.

You'd think your Legal associate knew which business you owned, right?

How does this guy get off posting spam (Against our forum's rules) then saying he's going to sue me for pointing out that he's making false claims about curing diseases?

What do you guys think? Should we just ignore it and let people ruin this forum by filling it with useless (illegal) junk?
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Date:Sat, Jun 20, 2009 3:00 pm
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Rick,
You or your employee intentionally made a decision to break the rules of our forum and post information that was useless to our members except to tick them off and fill the site with your (illegal) advertisements and claims. Does your product cure diabetes or cancer because if it does, both me and my grandfather need a case of it.

We work very hard to maintain a community of quality content and useful information.

Your company posted spam advertisements (in violation of our forum rules) and didn't even take the time to post them in an area that was appropriate to their content.

As I said before, I will remove the post, but I am asking that you and/ or your employees do not post spam that I am forced to moderate.

Thanks.

- Curtis
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Default Spammer's -miracle juice multi-level market salesmen

Bravo BeFit4Free for "standing down" these network marketing juice salesmen!
Thanks for your dilligence in policing this site to keep it honest for the rest of us.
Keep up the great work.
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